Debunking The Meme: The Bini defense meme

Mortality mauling and maiming is scientifically unreliable for numerous reasons. The study was erronous and flawed so bad that the annals of surgery did a study debunking that study.

http://journals.lww.com/annalsofsurgery/Citation/2012/05000/Imprudent_use_of_Unreliable_Dog_Bite_Tabulations.38.aspx

Plus Jim Crosby did a write up debunking it.

http://jimcrosby.canineaggressionissueswithjimcrosby.com/2011/05/response-to-injury-study.html?m=1

Plus this explains why Bini’s study is unsound

http://junkscience11949.blogspot.com/?m=1

Numerous studies have been done showing the flaws in pediatric studies regarding dogs for example.

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10888705.2017.1387550

Also NO ONE suggested he is not a breed identification expert we as well as Bini already know that he is NOT a breed identification expert we said NO doctor can tell a breed involved in a dog attack by viewing the victims bite. Hooked on phonics can go a long way for the BSL ACTIVIST.

And he claims he obtained breed of dog information from reviewing reports at his cities animal control office. Well that is unreliable as studies prove.

http://article.sapub.org/10.5923.j.sociology.20130302.02.html

http://www.vetmed.ufl.edu/2016/02/17/dna-studies-reveal-that-shelter-workers-often-mislabel-dogs-as-pit-bulls/

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S109002331500310X

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20183478

So your claim in your meme is just ONE flaw of MANY when it comes to Bini’s study. Bini has been debunked and yet again so have the bsl activist.

Debunking The Memes: the Lies and Propaganda claims series

I see these memes shared often on social media. In these memes they list what they consider lies and propaganda made by the pro pit bull anti bsl side of the argument. So im going to adress each point they make because there is infact misinformation repeated by both sides of this argument. So i will adress each point on their memes

1st Meme

What is a Pit Pusher? Do you realize how stupid that term sounds? There is no such thing as a “Pit Pusher” this is cult jargon/ loaded language

1. It is all how they’re raised! Blame the deed not the breed!
So you jammed two completely different phrases that are stating two different things into ONE. As for the first part. It is not how they are raised completely but it is a big part of it. Dogs can have aggression issues due to medical issues such as illness or neurological disorders, also scientist found aggression issues being a result of hormones and oxytocin levels. So aggression can come from numerous factors that have nothing to do with how it is raised. However breed is not one of those factors. As for the second part “Blame the deed not the breed” well ?… Whats the problem?.. Do you blame every member of a race or ethnicity when one person from that race/ethnicity does something bad?

2. Pit Bulls never attack without provocation or training?? Again i never heard both provocation and training put together in the same phrase. But ok.
As for provocation yes as i pointed out in the previous statement “DOGS” … Dogs not just pit bulls can attack for numerous reasons and many of times especially with very young people they can unintentionally provoke a dog for example pull its ears, try to ride it like a horse ect.. And as for training.. Poor training and poor socialization can lead to an attack with ANY DOG not just pit bulls. Again breed is not a factor in this

3. Chihuahuas bite more than Pit Bulls.
Well they do… kind of throws your “pit bulls attack the most”” claims to the dogs. I’m sorry that this FACT upsets you.

4. This photo of my child with our gentle pit bull proves how sweet they are.
The same can be said in regards to your gore images of injured children. You use those photo’s to prove every pit bull is bad when in reality over 5 million pit bulls live happy and peaceful lives without ever causing harm

5. Pits were never bred to fight. They were originally farm dogs.
Pit Bulls were bred for fighting HOWEVER NOT ALL WERE. the APBT is a versatile breed that throughout history has been bred for hunting, farm labor, catch dogs for loose hogs, fighting as well as bred simply for show and pets

6. The News only reports attacks by bully breeds.
The news is definitely biased when it comes to reporting on dog attacks.

7. Pit Bulls are Nanny Dogs
No they are not. Just like they are not bred to be killing machines that enjoy to kill and all that other oooga boooga mythological nonsense you spread about them. Pit Bulls are dogs

8. Any dog can attack, not just pits.
WELL!!!! IT IS TRUE!!!! there are 4.5 million dog attacks a year in the united states 30,000 of those attacks require surgery as per the CDC. According to your organization they were responsible for 459 of those in 2015. That is 0.01% of attacks requiring reconstructive surgery. The fact you fail to realize this goes to show what a failure bsl is and what a failure your mindset is when it comes to dog safety

9. My pit bull will lick you to death.
Ok … And? .. What is the problem. The fact that friendly pit bulls exist hurts your propaganda im assuming. Otherwise i see nothing wrong with that statement.

10. You’re ignorant! Get educated!
Well you must hear that alot. And i am not suprised at all for this meme is a full display of how ignorant you really are. And yes get educated. You can start by educating yourself as to what a Pit Bull is because the image in your meme is of An American Bully not a Pit Bull.

2nd Meme

1. A pit bulls genetics have no effects on its behavior.

Ive never heard “No effects” stated. However genetics are very complex and a crap shoot not a vacuum plus science shows

Also if its in their genetics to kill or be agressive why is only 0.000004% of their population involved in fatalities. ? .. Well.

2. Pits were never bred to fight. They were originally farm dogs.
Pit Bulls were bred for fighting HOWEVER NOT ALL WERE. the APBT is a versatile breed that throughout history has been bred for hunting, farm labor, catch dogs for loose hogs, fighting as well as bred simply for show and pets.

3. Chiuahas are more dangerous than Pit Bulls.
Well there is no such thing as a “dangerous breed” no one breed is more or less dangerous than the next.

4. Pit Bulls are no more dangerous than other dogs.
Correct

5. My pit bull has never shown any sign of aggression.
Well… What is the problem with that statement? Over 99% of the pit bull population live peaceful lives.

6.Fatal attack pit bull statistics are false.
Well they are false

Click to access Ombudsman%20review%20Merritt%20Clifton2.pdf

http://btoellner.typepad.com/kcdogblog/2016/10/radio-canada-issues-impressive-take-down-of-dogsbiteorg-and-merritt-clifton.html

http://legal.pblnn.com/pro-bsl-experts/dogbiteorg/116-dogsbiteorg-dogbite-qstatisticsq-the-fox-guarding-the-henhouse

7. Media conspires against pit bulls.
More like they make money off pit bulls through ratings and site traffic. More viewers more ratings. If it bleeds it leads. There is infact media bias for traffic.

8. Breed Specific Legislation does not work.
Correct it does not.

http://www.journalvetbehavior.com/article/S1558-7878%2807%2900202-X/abstract

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0020138396834115

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0020138396834115

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/280547101_Italian_breed-specific_legislation_on_potentially_dangerous_dogs_2003_assessment_of_its_effects_in_the_city_of_Florence_Italy

https://search.proquest.com/openview/ff382b2afba8cb3cc9e5f8c3022f9ddd/1.pdf?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=42423

https://irishvetjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13620-017-0101-1

http://www.journalvetbehavior.com/article/S1558-7878(07)00264-X/abstract

http://www.appliedanimalbehaviour.com/article/S0168-1591(13)00292-X/abstract

http://www.journalvetbehavior.com/article/S1558-7878(07)00236-5/abstract

Even snopes debunked bsl. Bsl does not work
http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/25/bsl-and-dog-bites/

9. Pits that attack have been abused or trained to fight.
Like i stated before attacks can be a result of numerous factors and breed is not one of those factors.

10. Pit Bulls were the most popular dog in America.
Not sure about the most but they were and still are one of the most popular. According to your organization they make up 6% of the dog population. There is an estimated 89.7 million dogs in the U.S.A and 6% of 89.7 equals 5,382,000 pit bulls there are over 300 breeds in the usa most of those breeds do not even make up 1% of the population.

11. Staffordshire Terriers are not Pit Bulls.
Correct. If you dont believe me go look at the old dogmen literature you love to quote so much. Even they will tell you the AmStaff and the APBT are two different breeds.

12. Pit Bulls never attack without provocation.
You already listed this are you trying to make your list go up to 20 and ran out of ideas?. Your meme making skills are certainly lacking ive already adressed this twice.

13. There is no such breed as a Pit Bull
The American Pit Bull Terrier is a breed and using the term pit bull should only be used as a short for American Pit Bull Terrier. Thats it. Not the 20 breeds plus mutts you use the term for.

14. Its all how you raise them.
How you raise and train your dog is part of it. However abused and neglected dogs can be rehabilitated and so can dogs used for fighting. So its all how you raise them is false.

15. Human aggressive pit bulls were culled.
Yes in the breeding history they were. The dogmen did not want to get attacked breaking up the dog fights.

16. No one can correctly identify a pit bull
Well you sure can’t.The dog in your meme is an American Bully. Not a pit bull.

17. Only intact male pit bulls kill people.
Of all fatal dog attacks unfixed intact male DOGS kill and attack the most. Again male DOGS .. Breed is not a factor.

18. Pit Bulls are Nanny Dogs
No they are not. Just like they are not genetic killers.

19. Pit Bulls are not unpredictable.
Well they are not unpredictable and you can’t prove they are so. Theres that.

20. Pit Bull attacks are over reported.
Again with the repeat. You must be desperate for ideas to make a long list.

And they have made this meme a few more times. Just repeating themselves and also NOT ONE of these memes has an actual American Pit Bull Terrier in them. These memes all have pictures of American Bullys in them.

Not a pit bull

Not a pit bull

Again same points and NOT A PIT BULL a mislable

Again same points and NOT A PIT BULL a mislable

So all they have is the “Nanny Dog” point that is it. Well than consider their memes debunked

Debunking The Propaganda Meme: Dog, Cat, Livestock meme

There is NO data base that tracks this. Where do these numbers come from?…. Merritt Clifton of Animals 24-7.

http://www.animals24-7.org/2016/01/31/pit-bulls-killed-24000-other-dogs-13000-cats-in-2015/

And how on earth did Merrit come up with these figures?

For each dog attack on another animal that meets the usual criteria for reportage, there is probably at least one in each category that would usually not be reported by the owners of the victim animals.

This means that the number of reported attacks probably can be safely multiplied by at least three, independent of all factors involving media criteria for newsworthiness

Can PROBABLY be MULTIPLIED by THREE.

Input data

The ANIMALS 24-7 input data for 2013 included attacks on other animals by 424 dogs, 396 of them pit bulls. The pit bulls killed 92 dogs, injuring 164; killed 17 cats, injuring five; and killed 289 hooved animals, injuring 22.

The ANIMALS 24-7 input data for 2014 included attacks on other animals by 409 dogs, 337 of them pit bulls. The pit bulls killed 86 dogs, injuring 139; killed 26 cats, injuring four; and killed 77 hooved animals, injuring 24.

The ANIMALS 24-7 input data for 2015 included attacks on other animals by 338 dogs, 296 of them pit bulls. The pit bulls killed 101 dogs, injuring 86; killed 37 cats, injuring three; and killed 45 hooved animals, injuring 23.

So he is using NEWS REPORTS and multiplying those numbers. News reports have proven to be inaccurate on breed identification. The CDC has even stated this. And look at what else he claims..

The approximately 3.5 million pit bulls in the U.S. appear to have killed more than 24,000 other dogs in 2015, up from about 15,500 each in 2013 and 2014; nearly 13,000 cats; perhaps 9,000 hooved animals; and between 30,000 and 45,000 small mammals and poultry.

APPEAR TO!

And what else

Under-reporting

The numbers of pit bull victims, totaling 76,000 to 91,000, are approximate, projected from media reports. The numbers for 2015 include the presumption that a verifiable steep increase in pit bull attacks on dogs and cats was mirrored in violence toward other species, though attacks on other species appear to have been under-reported even more than attacks on dogs and cats, which are themselves reported only a fraction as often as they occur.

Under reported? Are you delusional? And if they were not reported how do you know they took place. Did you also track every other breed that attacked and killed livestock, other dogs, cats, AND POULTRY?? really Merrit!!?? How many field mice were attacked and killed by cats? And what type of cats? How many house mice and birds were killed by cats and what types of cats had the most kills? Does this question sound absurd? Does it sound silly? Or impossible to answer? Well that is because it is just like your claims on Pit Bulls having x amount of kills on other dogs ,cats, and livestock. These claims are made up numbers and are not real

So how many dogs cats and livestock were killed by pit bulls and how many by other breeds?

Dogsbite.org using non pit bull fatality for their agenda

Just recently a baby was killed by a German Shepherd however this did not stop the BSL Activist from using the story as a platform to spread Anti Pit Bull propaganda. This is not the first time i have witnessed this so it was no suprise to me. In this blog i will not only show proof of the dogsbite org/BSL Activist lack of concern and lack of real advocacy for victims i will also debunk the Activist who showed up to comment and spread their propaganda as well.

Here is the original facebook post

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155918148629443&id=248731454442

1.Using this as a “springboard” is exactly what YOU are doing here Valerie .”Not a single owner of any other breed feels compelled to do “damage control”. Well you are here trying to “damage” their breed. Your activism is responsible for that.

2.The breed was named. A German Shepherd. Yet this particular facebook post lacked details so you took advantage of the lack of information and used this as a platform to spread Anti Pit Bull/ BSL propaganda.

3.As what pit bull owners join in masse.?I see your fellow hate group members here in full force to play keyboard warrior and blame an entire breed that wasnt even involved in this story. Who exactly is blaming victims? You seem to have ZERO concern or interest for the victim in this story as you are here to push Anti Pit Bull propaganda. Does the family of this victim care about your Anti Pit Bull agenda? A German Shepherd killed their child. Explain to me how you are “”advocating for them””. Also you own a German Shepherd…The psychological projection runs deep with you.

Von Dunn that is odd. I looked at this post and found pictures of different types of dogs posted.

This dog was posted here and this dog is not a pit bull.

Von Dunn this was posted and this dog is not a pit bull.

This dog was posted here and this dog is not a pit bull.

This dog was posted here and this dog is not a pit bull.

And Valerie this story is about a German Shepherd yet you are here “infesting” the report with anti pit bull propaganda. And look at your profile picture. It is the breed responsible for the death in this report.

Vonn Dunn false. Show me the 134,550 maulings and fatalities in the past year, five years, ten years. You cant.

Over 5 million pit bull owners in the U.S.A have newborns and cats without issue

WRONG AGAIN Lizabeth. How shocking

And here comes Julie with obnoxious paste comments promoting dogsbite org and National Pit Bull Victims Awareness on a story about a german shepherd fatality

Blah blah

Breaksticks

Bluh bluh blah blahh

Julie dogsbite org and their stats have been debunked

Click to access Ombudsman%20review%20Merritt%20Clifton2.pdf

And there are studies out that debunk your dogsbite org pediatric study for example

Click to access Dog-bite-injuries-to-humans-and-the-use-of-breed-specific-legislation-a-comparison-of-bites-from-legislated-and-non-legislated-dog-breeds.pdf

As well as

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/117/3/e374

As well as

http://www.journalvetbehavior.com/article/S1558-7878(17)30149-1/fulltext

And we found flaws in the 1616 study you keep pushing and posting all over social media

https://caoimhinism.wordpress.com/2017/10/23/response-to-golinko-1616-study/

Hey Dana Ford how about the fact that this story is about a German Shepherd and the fact both you and Julie block us at lightening speed every time one of our informed advocates debunks you with facts

Dana Ford

They have said it on other reports and others keep telling your camp. But you refuse to listen and plow forward

https://trib.al/GjDKzaN

And when it is a pit bull they don’t mention breed!? Really!!?

Try again

Dana you dont even know what happened and you are here to blame an entire breed that was not even involved in this story

John appearently breed doesnt matter to you in this case as the breed was not a pit bull yet here you are. Also you cant prove they kill more than all other breeds for your organizations that claim this count 20 breeds plus mutts to be pit bulls. Also even if your numbers were correct the total amount of pit bulls involved in fatalities equals 0.000004% of the entire breeds population. Also the cdc found of all breeds involved in fatalities it is only a small fraction of a percent of the breeds population. So in reality breed is irrelevant John

And of course. Crickets and tumbleweeds from Valerie

Dana you are a walking talking contradiction. Do yourself and the world a favor and log off the internet

There would have to be 53 this year. There was never 53 in a year not even close.

Von Dunn. Grieving what exactly? She asked where the parents were WHILE this was happening. NOT AFTER IT HAPPENED. Von Dunn who ties your shoelaces?

Im no breed identification expert but i can tell you the dog in that meme IS NOT a pit bull. It appears to be a Cane Corso. And as for pedophiles take a look at your own advocacy as seen here
https://truthandnothingbutwontbackdown.wordpress.com/2016/03/18/justin-gregorits-author-member-of-daxtons-friends-and-dogsbite-org/
Here
https://truthandnothingbutwontbackdown.wordpress.com/2015/12/15/daxtons-friends-dbo-attracts-pedophiles/
And here
https://truthandnothingbutwontbackdown.wordpress.com/2016/02/21/daxtons-friends-dbo-sexual-offenders/

Thank you David. I guess im not the only one asking that question

So in conclusion. BSL Activist further prove they could care less about victims and will use anything as a platform to demonize pit bulls and their owners with debunked propaganda. Also the people i adressed are not just random people with negative opinions of pit bulls. They are the very activist who pressure politicians to pass breed bans.

Dogsbite.org a hate group(part 2) The Seven-Stage Hate Model: The Psychopathology of Hate

I found this here article about the seven stage model of a hate group. I could not help but notice the similarities with dogsbite org and BSL Activism.

Jack Schafer Ph.D.Let Their Words Do the Talking

The Seven-Stage Hate Model
The Psychopathology of Hate

Hate masks personal insecurities. Not all insecure people are haters, but all haters are insecure people. Hate elevates the hater above the hated. Haters cannot stop hating without exposing their personal insecurities. Haters can only stop hating when they face their insecurities.

Stage 1: The Haters Gather

Haters rarely hate alone. They feel compelled, almost driven, to entreat others to hate as they do. Peer validation bolsters a sense of self-worth and, at the same time, prevents introspection, which reveals personal insecurities. Individuals who are otherwise ineffective become empowered when they join groups, which also provide anonymity and diminished accountability.


Stage 2: The Hate Group Defines Itself

Hate groups form identities through symbols, rituals, and mythologies, which enhance the members’ status and, at the same time, degrade the object of their hate. For example, skinhead groups may adopt the swastika, the iron cross, the Confederate flag, and other supremacist symbols. Group-specific symbols or clothing often differentiate hate groups. Group rituals, such as hand signals and secret greetings, further fortify members. Hate groups, especially skinhead groups, usually incorporate some form of self-sacrifice, which allows haters to willingly jeopardize their well-being for the greater good of the cause. Giving one’s life to a cause provides the ultimate sense of value and worth to life.

Stage 3: The Hate Group Disparages the Target
Hate is the glue that binds haters to one another and to a common cause. By verbally debasing the object of their hate, haters enhance their self-image, as well as their group status. In skinhead groups, racist song lyrics and hate literature provide an environment wherein hate flourishes. The life span of aggressive impulses increases with ideation. In other words, the more often a person thinks about aggression, the greater the chance for aggressive behavior to occur. Thus, after constant verbal denigration, haters progress to the next more acrimonious stage.

Stage 4: The Hate Group Taunts the Target

Hate, by its nature, changes incrementally. Time cools the fire of hate, thus forcing the hater to look inward. To avoid introspection, haters use ever-increasing degrees of rhetoric and violence to maintain high levels of agitation. Taunts and offensive gestures serve this purpose. In this stage, skinheads typically shout racial slurs from moving cars or from afar. Nazi salutes and other hand signals often accompany racial epithets. Racist graffiti also begins to appear in areas where skinheads loiter. Most skinhead groups claim turf proximate to the neighborhoods in which they live.

Stage 5: The Hate Group Attacks the Target Without Weapons

This stage is critical because it differentiates vocally abusive haters from physically abusive ones. In this stage, hate groups become more aggressive, prowling their turf seeking vulnerable targets. Violence coalesces hate groups and further isolates them from mainstream society. Skinheads, almost without exception, attack in groups and target weaker victims. The adrenaline “high” intoxicates the attackers. The initial adrenaline surge lasts for several minutes; however, the effects of adrenaline keep the body in a state of heightened alert for up to several days. Each successive anger-provoking thought or action builds on residual adrenaline and triggers a more violent response than the one that originally initiated the sequence. Anger builds on anger.

Stage 6: The Hate Group Attacks the Target with Weapons

Haters prefer weapons, such as broken bottles, baseball bats, blunt objects, screwdrivers, and belt buckles. These types of weapons require the attacker to be close to the victim, which further demonstrates the depth of personal anger. Attackers can discharge firearms at a distance, thus precluding personal contact. Close-in onslaughts require the assailants to see their victims eye-to-eye and to become bloodied during the assault. Hands-on violence allows skinheads to express their hate in a way a gun cannot. Personal contact empowers and fulfills a deep-seated need to have dominance over others.

Stage 7: The Hate Group Destroys the Target

The ultimate goal of haters is to destroy the object of their hate. Mastery over life and death imbues the hater with godlike power and omnipotence, which, in turn, facilitate further acts of violence. With this power comes a great sense of self-worth and value, the very qualities haters lack. However, in reality, hate physically and psychologically destroys both the hater and the hated.

Universal Application

The Seven-Stage Hate Model has a wider application. For example, when a coworker, for various reasons, becomes a hate target, the hater immediately seeks out others in the office who dislike, or can be persuaded to dislike, the hated coworker (Stage 1). The group establishes an identity using symbols and behaviors. They use a lifted eyebrow, a code word to exclude the hated coworker from a lunch invitation, or any number of other actions to demean and isolate. The haters may even adopt a name for their group (Stage 2). At this point, the haters only disparage the hated coworker within their group (Stage 3). As time passes, the haters openly insult the hated coworker either directly or indirectly by allowing disparaging remarks to be overheard from afar (Stage 4). One morning, the hated coworker discovers his desk rearranged and offensive images pasted over a picture depicting his wife and children (Stage 5). Both sophomoric and more malicious acts of hate have the same effect. Eventually, the haters sabotage the hated coworker’s projects and attempt to ruin the individual’s reputation through rumors and innuendoes (Stage 6). In so doing, the haters make the work environment intolerable for the hate target (Stage 7). Scenarios like this occur every day across America and, indeed, around the world. The targets of hate may change, but the hate process remains constant.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/blog/let-their-words-do-the-talking/201103/the-seven-stage-hate-model-the-psychopathology-hate%3famp

Jim Crosby

Meet Jim Crosby. Jim is an expert when it comes to dog attacks/fatalities. Here is some information about Mr. Crosby i found.

First from Victoria Stillwell

James Crosby, CBCC-KA, is a retired Police Lieutenant (Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office, Jacksonville, FL) and has professionally trained dogs, taught individual and group obedience classes, and addressed canine behavior problems since 1999.

Jim is a Certified Behavior Consultant-Canine-Knowledge Assessed (CCPDT). Jim is recognized as an expert in the US and Canada on Dangerous Dogs, canine aggression, fatal dog attacks, and related issues and as such has performed evaluations on alleged Dangerous Dogs for various legal cases and jurisdictions. He has personally investigated 20 fatal dog attacks on humans and, has post-attack, evaluated over 40 dogs that have attacked and killed humans. Jim served as Division Manager for Bay County (FL) Animal Control from 2008-2010 and is a Florida Certified Animal Control Officer.
https://positively.com/community/positively-contributors/jim-crosby/

Canine Aggression Issues with Jim Crosby
This blog looks at the facts behind canine aggression and fatal dog attacks. The data used here largely comes directly from Jim’s on-scene and personal investigations into these cases.
http://jimcrosby.canineaggressionissueswithjimcrosby.com/?m=1

http://animallawsource.org/animal-law-source-guest-speakers/jim-crosby/

Kory Nelson’s 2nd e-mail to officials

Kill em all Kory Nelsons 2nd letter of psycho babble to Denver officials

The opponents to SB861 and BSL have interjected irrelevant issues and misleading facts into the debate. Those California legislators who are interested in objective analysis should consider the most recent results of actual legal litigation over the same issues, as courts of law consider only relevant legal issues and reliable evidence. During the recent litigation in 2004-2005 in Denver, Colorado, I was the lead attorney for the City and County of Denver against the State of Colorado, which passed a state statute prohibiting breed specific legislation. In the litigation, there were 2 legal issues: (1) Who gets to decide what the regulations are over dangerous dogs – local government or state government? And (2) Is there rational evidence to support the differential treatment of pit bulls from other breeds of dogs. While much more detailed information, including the full judicial rulings, copies of legal briefs, trial exhibits, and full historical reviews of Denver’s ordinance and the litigation is available online at the official website of the Denver City Attorney’s Office at: Link I will summarize the two answers here.

Regulation of Dangerous Dogs is a “Municipal Affair” w/o a Need for Statewide Uniformity

The State of Colorado, like the State of California, has provisions in their state constitution that provide that matters of pure local concern should be decided by local government. Local government’s regulations in such an area would supersede conflicting state law. The propriety of such regulation of a matter of local concern is not for the State or the Courts to decide. The decision on the type and manner of Breed Specific Legislation, which is a matter of pure local concern, should be decided at that level of government that is closest to the people and is most informed about the unique nature of their community’s problems and attitudes. The Denver District

Court ruled in favor of the City & County of Denver on this issue, stating:

The Court concludes that the issue of which dog breeds are permitted, prohibited, or restricted within a city is a matter of purely local concern. The State has not articulated, and the Court cannot conceive, a need for statewide uniformity. In fact, there seems to be a need for local control in this area. Each community has its own attitudes and preferences with respect to dogs. In each community, depending on culture and demographics, dogs occupy a different role. It would not make sense for the owners of mountain dogs in Telluride, farm dogs in Lamar, and urban dogs in Denver to be subject to the same kinds of laws and restrictions. . . . local control of breeds means flexibility in crafting locally-acceptable solutions to the problems created by dogs. As the largest and most populous metropolitan area in Colorado, Denver faces unique challenges in ensuring that dogs enhance the lives of citizens rather than threaten their safety.

The California Constitution, Article XI, 5(a), states:
(a) It shall be competent in any city charter to provide that the city governed thereunder may make and enforce all ordinances and regulations in respect to municipal affairs, subject only to restrictions and limitations provided in their several charters and in respect to other matters they shall be subject to general laws. City charters adopted pursuant to this Constitution shall supersede any existing charter, and with respect to municipal affairs shall supersede all laws inconsistent therewith.

The California Supreme Court has already determined that matters that are a “municipal affair” supersede any conflicting state law:

When the charter city measure “‘implicates a “municipal affair” and poses a genuine conflict with state law,’ ” the determinative question is whether the subject of the statute is of statewide concern. (Johnson v. Bradley, 4 Cal. 4th 389, 399 (Cal., 1992)) If it is not, “‘the conflicting charter city measure is a “municipal affair” and “beyond the reach of legislative enactment.” Cawdrey v. City of Redondo Beach, 15 Cal. App. 4th 1212, 1222-1223 (Cal. Ct. App., 1993)

A Constitutional Rational Basis for Differential Treatment of Pit Bulls Continues To Exist

In 1991, the Colorado Supreme Court ruled in the case of Colorado Dog Fanciers v. Denver, that there was sufficient evidence for the trial court to find that despite there being unreliable evidence as to which breed of dog may be more likely to attack, should a pit bull attack it was more likely to result in severe bodily injury or death.

The history of pit bulls clearly shows these dogs were selectively bred by humans to maximize their dog’s chances of winning in a fight against another animal – initially bulls, then other dogs. Humans bred these dogs in order to enhance specific behavioral traits: strength, agility, tolerance to pain, tenacity to continue attacking, and the infliction of maximum damage to their opponent. Other breeds of dogs, when they do attack, are more likely to bite their victim and release. Pit bulls were specifically developed for their bite, hold and shake behavior. They will bite their victim and hold that bite for long periods of time, refusing to let go. Some mistakenly use the incorrect term “Lock”, but there is no physiological mechanism – these dogs just are so tenacious that they refuse to release their bite, despite having massive pain and injuries inflicted upon them. One reported incident had the pit bull owner cutting off their dog’s legs, one at a time, to display their dogs continued drive to attack their opponent in the ring (the dog died, but its progeny’s value multiplied several times). Once a pit bull, with its well developed and stronger jaw muscles, has grabbed its victim, it will shake its head back and forth, ripping the victim’s skin, muscle, blood vessels and tissue. Pit Bulls were first selected to encourage its predatory behavior passed down from their wolf ancestors, who would run along side larger caribou, elk, and moose, jump up and bite, holding their bite until joined by other pack members to drag the large animal down for a kill. Single Pit Bulls would hang onto fighting bulls for hours! Their advocates call them loyal – sure they are – they will engage in a battle to the death for their masters – that’s loyalty no one needs.

The opponents to SB861 and BSL have interjected irrelevant issues and misleading facts into the debate. Those California legislators who are interested in objective analysis should consider the most recent results of actual legal litigation over the same issues, as courts of law consider only relevant legal issues and reliable evidence. During the recent litigation in 2004-2005 in Denver, Colorado, I was the lead attorney for the City and County of Denver against the State of Colorado, which passed a state statute prohibiting breed specific legislation. In the litigation, there were 2 legal issues: (1) Who gets to decide what the regulations are over dangerous dogs – local government or state government? And (2) Is there rational evidence to support the differential treatment of pit bulls from other breeds of dogs. While much more detailed information, including the full judicial rulings, copies of legal briefs, trial exhibits, and full historical reviews of Denver’s ordinance and the litigation is available online at the official website of the Denver City Attorney’s Office at: Link I will summarize the two answers here.

Finally, those who support pit bulls support dog fighting, by providing dog fighters their favorite gladiators. Dog fighting is still a multi-million dollar illegal enterprise that goes on across this county in closed groups, like the mafia, that are extremely difficult for law enforcement officials to penetrate. As these dog fighters’ activities are so “underground”, do you believe that they would obey any ban on pit bulls – of course not! But, if pit bulls were illegally to possess, law enforcement officials could obtain search warrants where pit bulls are discovered and during such a search, additional evidence of their dog fighting could be discovered and seized for felony prosecutions. By giving them the legal ability to possess their favorite gladiator, they are insulated to continue in their horrible acts of cruelty. These dog fighters can’t hire their own political lobbyists to openly advocate their position, so as to protect their millions of gambling income. So how and where are they going to oppose such BSL activities? These anti-BSL groups who accept anonymous donations to support their organizational efforts are being deliberately indifferent to the support they give dog fighters.

There is no legitimate necessity for the pit bull breed to continue. They provide no unique traits that are beneficial to any organized society based upon socially redeeming qualities that can not be provided by other breeds. Nothing offered by pit bulls can possibly justify the deaths and maiming this breed has inflicted upon innocent humans and other domesticated companion animals. The bite of a Chihuahua is one thing, the bite of a pit bull is of a completely different category, described by doctors at the University of Texas Department of Medicine as being closer to a “shark attack”.

As no litigation on the merits of the increased dangerousness of pit bulls has ever resulted in a victory for pit bull advocates, their emotional illogical anthropomorphic rhetoric should be discounted and disregarded, and the results of actual litigation should be respected and followed. America had long ago decided where disputes of fact and law should be decided, and the pro-pit bull advocates can’t win there. SB861 should be passed so that each and every charter municipality in California can decide for themselves if they want to avail themselves of a very practical tool in the form of BSL to protect their community.

Kory Nelson, Esq.
Denver, Colorado
–Kory Nelson, Esq.

So there you have it. The 2nd of the two letters of lunacy from Kill em all Kory Nelson. It makes you wonder who ties the shoelaces of the Denver officials who passed the ban

Kory Nelson’s e-mails to Denver officials(part 1)

Here are the letters written to Denver officials from Kill Em All Kory in attempt to stonewall any opposition to the breed ban. The bsl activist use this same tactic today. Have a look. His words are pure lunacy.

JOHN W. HJCKENLOOPER Mayor
Wednesday, August 03. 2005

DEPARTMENT OF LAW
COLE FINEGAN
CITY ATTORNEY

OFFICE OF CITY ATTORNEY PROSECUTION & CODE ENFORCEMENT
201 WEST COLFAX AVENUE
DEPT. 1207
DENVER. COLORADO 80202
PHONE: (720) 913-8050
FAX: (720) 913-8010

RE: Offer of Assistance on Pit Bulls & Breed Specific Legislation

To Whom It May Concern:
It has come to my attention that your community is contemplating governmental action regarding pit bull dogs in some type of restriction or ban, generically referred to as Breed Specific Legislation (aka. “BSL”). I would like to offer my assistance in this area, as I have obtained a significant amount of expertise in this area as a result of my recent involvement as the lead attorney in litigation on behalf of the City & County of Denver, Colorado against the State of Colorado over Denver’s pit bull ban ordinance (enacted in 1989) and municipal home rule authority, in response to the Colorado Legislature’s attempts to prohibit BSL in Colorado by enacting HB04-1279 in April of 2004. Denver was successful in its litigation as our ordinance was determined to supersede the state statute as the regulation of dangerous dogs is a matter of pure local concern.

Through this litigation, I have obtained a high level of understanding of not only the legal issues surrounding the constitutionality of BSL, but also the underlying factual issues that provide a legitimate and logical basis for BSL. As this issue usually brings a large amount of irrational emotional rhetoric from anti-BSL advocates. it is easy for any governmental official to become confused over what are the relevant facts, .and who are the reliable sources of. information. I believe I have a number of resources that may be helpfuI to you along these lines.

First, you have to understand tbat tbe anti-BSL pundits organize over a number of web group sites that help distribute mass emails to al1 of tbeir registered members. While you could find these groups on any major web group site, one I recommend to examine and sign up for is BSL-­UPDATES@Yahoogroups.com I find this site to be a good source of information and strategic intelligence gathering. If you have been targeted by these groups (most likely how I found out about your recent interest in this topic of BSL). that your organization will be flooded with emails, letters, and telephone calls from members of these groups. You should contact your leaders and advise them of this, as it has been my experience the same members will send emails. letters, or telephone calls to each jurisdiction revjewing this issue in hopes of intimidating them into a full retreat away from the issue. I can cite you specific examples where these groups have promised to bring litigation against local governmental entities, but failed to follow tbrough with the threat when their threats bad been called. Many of these emails and letters will have either fake or bad names and/or addresses. as our attempts to respond to them resulted in this discovery.

Second, many of these groups have questionable funding sources., as they are usually willing to take donations without keeping records of the true identity of the donor. For this reason, the rumors of big donations from dog fighting proponents have been unconfirmed. But it would make sense that with all of the money involved in the illegal dog fighting circles, those involved would be donating funds to support their straw man advocates.

Third most animal control organizations tasked with duties on behalf of loca1 government take a position against BSL. This is to be expected, given two important facts: (1) Many of these animal control personnel have either come from or have been trained by non profit animal welfare organizations. (2) The ongoing “political correctness’” involved within this field .would prevent any organization from admitting the obvious truth that “The Emperor Has No Clothes”, because these organizations are heavily dependant upon the donations of charitable individuals who are either incapable or unwilling to learn the truth, and are more susceptible to the emotional rhetoric of anti-BSL advocates.

Fourth, there are no known organized groups. of victims of dog attacks. Only plastic surgeons, prosecutors, and a few brave legislators appear to be the publicized advocates in favor of BSL

Fifth, the anti-BSL pundits will attempt to bring illogical emotional phrases such as “breed racism” against BSL efforts or mottos as “it’s the deed, not the breed”. They will also attack the only statistical studies on dog bites resulting in fatalities as being unreliable. In only the last point do I occur, as BSL is independently justifiably rational on other evidence.

The truth is this: No on e can perform a satisfactory reliable statistical study of dog bites to determine the rankings of dangerous dog breeds braced. upon their probability of biting or attacking human beings or other domesticated animals. However, it is easily proven that SHOULD a pit bull attack a person or other domesticated animal, the attack is significantly more likely to result in serious bodily injury or death. It is not the probability but the severity of an attack that makes pit bulls more dangerous.

I would invite you to examine two separate web pages for more detailed information and documents that may be helpful to you:
I. The official webpage of the Denver City Attorney’s Office regarding our pit bull ordinance and the litigation against the State of Colorado, including a complete historical review of the ordinance and the prior judicial reviews:

http://www.denvergov.org/City_Attorney/54517143template3jump.asp

2. A restricted web group site for local government officials interested in the factual and legal issues involved with BSL and the strategic and tactical issues involved in dealing with the anti BSL advocates:
DangerousDogLaw@Yahoogroups.com

If you have any questions. please do not hesitate to contact me.
Respectfully,

Kory A. Nelson, Esq. Assistant City Attorney-Senior

Kill Em All Kory Nelson

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Kory Nelson also known by many as “Kill Em All Kory” is a Colorado Attorney and is said to be the brainchild, architect behind dogsbite. org and the BSL Lobby. He was the key proponent behind the Denver Pit Bull ban and has said he has made it his lifes mission to see every last pit bull on earth killed

Another interesting fact. His dog the German Shepherd was the chart topper for breed with the most attacks in his county. Hypocrisy indeed.

Here is a video to show you more on that subject that i found on youtube

Also special thanks to legal.pblnn.com for providing the following info http://legal.pblnn.com/pro-bsl-experts/pro-bsl-experts/dogbiteorg/94-dogbiteorg-an-objective-source

The Pit Bull name hype

Like many breeds The American Pit Bull Terrier has been used and bred for taboo and undesirable purposes. However this has followed the pit bull and haunted the breed with hysteria to this day. Many BSL Activist will quote old dogmen/dogfighter breeders to prove their point. So i decided to do research. Not only did i look into animal law studies i looked into a Bronwen Dickey interview i also did research many pit bull advocates would not wish to do. I have researched dogmen enthusiast sites. This chapter of my blog will look deeper into the subject of “what they were bred for” and explain the hype behind the sensationalism that fuels not only the media but bsl activism as well

First an interview with Bronwen

GROSS: So there are a lot of commonly held beliefs about pit bulls. Let me ask you about a couple of them. One is that they’re natural fighters and they’re hardwired to kill. Is that true?

DICKEY: No, there is absolutely no credible scientific evidence of that. You have specific subpopulations that have been used over time in the illegal pursuit of dogfighting, but they really can’t be held up as the standard for all pit bulls in America. That would be – in the book I kind of say it would be like using the Navy SEALs as a standard for all American men. There’s no evidence at all that this entire huge group of dogs – that there is anything different about them whatsoever.
GROSS: But weren’t pit bulls initially bred to be fighters?

DICKEY: Yes, that is true. The original bull and terrier dogs in the 19th century – or, you know, you can even trace it back further than that – but the original American pit bull terrier that started in 1889 in Massachusetts, it was originally a fighting dog, yes.

GROSS: So doesn’t it – wasn’t it kind of bred to have fighting abilities?

DICKEY: Well, fighting abilities are extremely complicated and rare. So the dog fighting investigators that I have spoken with over the years who have studied this, who have studied hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of these dogs and some have even gone undercover as dog fighters themselves, they stressed to me that if one dog in a litter – and this is a litter that has been actively selected for these certain traits – if one dog in a litter actually possesses the traits necessary to be a fighter then that’s considered a very high success rate. So fighting is not just one static thing. It’s a whole suite of very complex behaviors. And each one of those is different. And each dog will or will not display those at a different level. http://www.npr.org/2016/05/10/477350069/friend-or-fiend-pit-bull-explores-the-history-of-americas-most-feared-dog

And now a deeper look into the history from dogmen.

, J.P. Colby was considered the first “puppy peddler”, because he was the first breeder to sell his dogs to the public. In those days, it was not acceptable to sell to the public, according to the earlier fraternity
It takes 2 1/2 to 3 years to breed, raise, school and test a litter of dogs and, of course, many of them don’t make the grade,
http://www.gamedogshistory.com/bloodlines/

Throughout the 19th century, these dogs were known by a variety of names. “Pit Terriers”, “Pit Bull Terriers”, “Half and Half’s”, “Staffordshire Fighting Dogs”, “Old Family Dogs”(the Irish name), “Yankee Terriers”(the Northern name), and “Rebel Terriers”(the Southern name) to name a few. In 1898, a man by the name of Chauncey Bennet formed the United Kennel Club (UKC) for the sole purpose of registering “Pit Bull Terriers” as the American Kennel Club wanted nothing to do with them. Originally, he added the word “American” to the name and dropped “Pit”. This didn’t please all of the people so later the word “Pit” was added back to the name in

“The immediate ancestors of the APBT were Irish and English pit fighting dogs imported to the States in the mid-19th century. Once in the United States, the breed diverged slightly from what was being produced back in England and Ireland. In America, where these dogs were used not only as pit fighters, but also as catch dogs (i.e., for forcibly retrieving stray hogs and cattle) and as guardians of family, the breeders started producing a slightly larger, leggier dog. However, this gain in size and weight was small until very recently. The Old Family Dogs in 19th century Ireland were rarely above 25 lbs., and 15-lb. dogs were not uncommon. In American books on the breed from the early part of this century, it is rare to find a specimen over 50 lbs. (with a few notable exceptions).”

“To the untrained eye, ASTs may look more impressive and fearsome, with a larger and more blocky head, with bulging jaw muscles, a wider chest and thicker neck. In general, however, they aren’t nearly as “game” or athletic as game-bred APBTs. Because of the standardization of their conformation for show purposes, ASTs tend to look alike, to a much greater degree than APBTs do. APBTs have a much wider phenotypical range, since the primary breeding goal, until fairly recently, has been not to produce a dog with a certain “look” but to produce one capable of winning pit contests, in which the looks of a dog counted for nothing. There are some game-bred APBTs that are practically indistinguishable from typical ASTs, but in general they are leaner, leggier, and lighter on their toes and have more stamina, agility, speed, and explosive power.”

” Then we have another strain known as the pet and show type UKC American Pit Bull Ter­rier. He has been crossed with American Staf­fordshire Terrier blood and/or not bred from or to “game” stock for several generations.
http://www.gamedogshistory.com/the-game-bred-american-pit-bull-terrier-as-family-guard-and-defense-dog/

In general, the UKC version of the APBT is now being bred mostly for looks alone, http://www.gamedogshistory.com/history-apbt/

“These “game” bred APBTs can be encouraged to tolerate and avoid fights with other dogs. A good example of a “game” bred dog who is good with other dogs is my newest dog “CH Peter-built.” For those of you who do not know him let me state that he is a fighting Champion and a five time winner at that. Well guess who old Peterbuilt’s best buddy is. None other than our four-year-old attack trained German Shepherd, “Cornbred.” These two dogs were not brought up together as we just purchased “Peterbuilt.” This kind of ruins the theory that “game” bred APBTs are “kill crazy” and will destroy other dogs after getting the “taste of blood.”
http://www.gamedogshistory.com/the-game-bred-american-pit-bull-terrier-as-family-guard-and-defense-dog/

And now an interview with Stratton i found.

Question: I notice a tendency among some APBT breeders to breed very large dogs, 70 and 80 pounds or more. I also know that most of the really game old time imported dogs from Ireland were small, in the 30 and 40 pound class. Do you think it is possible to retain the gameness while increasing the size?

Answer: Generally speaking, the larger dogs do not run as game as the smaller ones. Gameness is not really related to size, per se; however, the most reputable and capable breeders have usually had a definite predilection for smaller dogs. Hence, the smaller dogs have usually been better bred.

Question: Regarding the gameness of the American Staffordshire Terrier, I have a Pit Bull, but I sold a Staff to a guy who uses him for board hunting, and he really goes after those hogs. Isn’t that gameness?

Answer: Okay, one more time around the mulberry bush on this one! I have tried to stress that the American Staffordshire Terrier should be considered a different breed because of a difference in expectations in terms of deep gameness. Fighting a boar or a bull (or a lion for that matter!) does not necessarily test deep gameness. Now, of all the things I have written, I think saying that the American Staffordshire Terrier is the thing that has upset the most people. But, it is hardly a novel point of view. For over thirty years, the most reputable Pit Bull breeders have held the same opinion. However, both the United Kennel Club and the American Dog Breeders Association register Staffs as APBTs. And to be perfectly frank, I don’t find the situation to be more than mildly alarming. The top breeders usually will not even breed outside their own strain, let alone to a Staff! So, it is difficult to see the harm in it all. I have stated the facts as I see them for their academic interest more than anything else and I am not on an anti-Staff or anti-show campaign.

Question: Hypothetically, if you had a game Staff, would you still consider it a separate breed?

Answer: In my opinion, it should still be considered a separate breed, because statistically its progeny would not be game. I know that some people are having a hard time going along with the idea of a Staff being a separate breed. However, the definition of a breed is (in part) “having consistent inherited characteristics,” so from the point of view of APBT enthusiasts, the Staff is a separate breed. The Staff people, on the other hand, think in terms of appearance alone, and consequently, regard the APBT as a Staff.

another quote from Richard Stratton: “A pit bull will not always start a fight. But he most assuredly will finish it.” Keep that in mind the next time you hear of a pit bull beating up another dog. He, most likely, didn’t start that fight…http://therealapbt.blogspot.com/2013/11/richard-f-stratton-more-questions-and.html?m=1

And now a look into animal law psychology studies and bsl studies

Regardless of the official title, these dogs are arguably among the most loyal and most abused of all dogs in American culture.

Generally, pit bulls are remarkably gentle and are fiercely loyal toward humans. This quality has made them particularly attractive to dog-fighters because they will withstand considerable abuse and neglect at the hands of their owners and will remain loyal and non-aggressive toward humans.

https://www.animallaw.info/article/detailed-discussion-dog-fighting

https://www.animallaw.info/article/pit-bull-bans-and-human-factors-affecting-canine-behavior

So in conclusion the name Pit Bull or why they are called pit bulls is a moot point. Calling the entire breed a “Fighting Breed” is an exaggeration. Claiming they love to fight is a LIE. BSL only ensures the wrong people will continue to have them and breed them